Comments on: The Kings of Israel and Judah http://www.flester.com/blog/2008/03/14/the-kings-of-israel-and-judah You can't have it both ways Sat, 30 Jul 2011 15:26:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Enoch Moses http://www.flester.com/blog/2008/03/14/the-kings-of-israel-and-judah#comment-3631 Enoch Moses Wed, 09 Apr 2008 00:53:52 +0000 http://www.flester.com/blog/2008/03/14/the-kings-of-israel-and-judah#comment-3631 I read your comment today and I have been pondering the question for a few hours. Here are some of thoughts: Christ's spiritual life is like the concept of a limit in calculus. We strive to be like Christ spiritually. The more we strive to become like Christ and become more like Christ, we then realize the we cannot fully be like Christ since he is perfect. The units for the y-axis should be "walking closer to God" unit. At the origin, we completely disobeying God. This also made me think of something else. There is also context involved in the diagram. The contexts are: before the law, law and Christ. If there a pious Jew living next to us, but he doesn't know Christ then his spiritual state score is zero; however a pious Jew before Christ would have a higher spiritual state score. I read your comment today and I have been pondering the question for a few hours. Here are some of thoughts:

Christ’s spiritual life is like the concept of a limit in calculus. We strive to be like Christ spiritually. The more we strive to become like Christ and become more like Christ, we then realize the we cannot fully be like Christ since he is perfect.

The units for the y-axis should be “walking closer to God” unit. At the origin, we completely disobeying God. This also made me think of something else. There is also context involved in the diagram. The contexts are: before the law, law and Christ. If there a pious Jew living next to us, but he doesn’t know Christ then his spiritual state score is zero; however a pious Jew before Christ would have a higher spiritual state score.

]]> By: mike http://www.flester.com/blog/2008/03/14/the-kings-of-israel-and-judah#comment-3618 mike Mon, 24 Mar 2008 03:48:56 +0000 http://www.flester.com/blog/2008/03/14/the-kings-of-israel-and-judah#comment-3618 The spiritual state grew out of an initial desire to reflect which kings had the major revivals. But in Judah, it comes from statements like this: <blockquote> And Asa did [that which was] right in the eyes of the LORD, as [did] David his father. </blockquote> from 1 Kings 15:11, and the opposite for example 1 Kings 15:3. In the lines of the kings of Israel we find things like this <blockquote> And Ahab the son of Omri did evil in the sight of the LORD above all that [were] before him. </blockquote> from 1 Kings 16:30, or in other places that a certain one "walked in the way of Jeroboam"for example 1 Kings 16:19. So there's no mathematical formula behind it (yet!), but it falls out of the text pretty naturally. What should the units on the y-axisfor spiritual state be measured in? The spiritual state grew out of an initial desire to reflect which kings had the major revivals. But in Judah, it comes from statements like this:

And Asa did [that which was] right in the eyes of the LORD, as [did] David his father.

from 1 Kings 15:11, and the opposite for example 1 Kings 15:3.

In the lines of the kings of Israel we find things like this

And Ahab the son of Omri did evil in the sight of the LORD above all that [were] before him.

from 1 Kings 16:30, or in other places that a certain one “walked in the way of Jeroboam”for example 1 Kings 16:19.

So there’s no mathematical formula behind it (yet!), but it falls out of the text pretty naturally. What should the units on the y-axisfor spiritual state be measured in?

]]> By: Enoch Moses http://www.flester.com/blog/2008/03/14/the-kings-of-israel-and-judah#comment-3617 Enoch Moses Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:59:37 +0000 http://www.flester.com/blog/2008/03/14/the-kings-of-israel-and-judah#comment-3617 How did you calculate the spiritual state value? Nice diagram. How did you calculate the spiritual state value? Nice diagram.

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